Ricardo Gonzalez at Chichen Itza
During these years the figure of Ricardo Gonzalez was growing internationally, and today is one of the scholars most required by the media and perhaps the most cited, when trying to elucidate the mysteries of the underworld.
Who writes this is an old settlement of outstanding debt, going back to my beginnings with the study of Cueva de los Tayos. With
Over the years, what began as a concern and mutual exchange in terms of the enigma of enigmas, was transformed over time into a long-standing friendship, which continues to consolidate.
Prolific writer, tireless traveler, despite his youth, Ricardo Gonzalez, showing unusual maturity and humility and simplicity rarely seen in this medium.
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Many of those interviewed in Chronic Underground share a common pattern, where a UFO early experience paved the way later. In your personal case, this line seems to follow the same path. How were those early approaches to phenomenology ufo?
Like many people in the world, I witnessed UFO sightings at first did not understand. I was very young. Then I had only seen "lights in the night sky walkers Chosica, on the outskirts of Lima. But in 1988, when he was 14 years old, my experience was quite different: a concrete object as a sort of glowing sphere, and in broad daylight, he moved silently toward the ocean while I watched, amazed from the patio of my house Maranga. I was very impressed. Then, the Lima press mention a "wave" of UFO sightings. Ie, was not alone. So it all started. Although I had to wait five years to achieve the first mental contact with "them." It was in 1993. And since then I have had experiences.
I know that sounds incredible, but this was not only mental messages and UFO sightings. Later I had the chance to see, physically, to the crew, noting that look like us, except the very tall, could easily blend into the crowd that goes in a hurry any city on Earth. They do not come with bad intentions. Just watch us and seem to expect something important happening in the world and in our evolution, a development that could positively affect the way of "them."
When it comes to contact alien, your name is connected as one of the most relevant. But to speak today of communication with intelligences from other worlds, repulsion, and still not accepted. The official position despite the apparent openness of recent years continues to be very rigid in terms of accepting the possibility of an interaction with these entities. Say the world stage on the UFO issue remains silent, as to the true nature of the phenomenon "Coincidís ?
contact My experience is, of course, a half of testimony in many cases worldwide. For example, in Peru, had evidence of close encounters from the 60's in the middle of the Andes of Ancash, well documented and witnessed, and later sightings scheduled with journalists and into the early 70's. Speaking at the time of contact with beings from other worlds was crazy. And yet it remains a subject irritating to the skeptics, at present have little evidence or evidence to show that "something" is watching.
There is even evidence of "high" that makes him, as military pilots, scientists or even astronauts. For example, when I was in the U.S. last September, saw stunned CNN in a news conference several former fighter pilots in the U.S., saying point blank that unidentified flying objects had been "neutralized" nuclear silos in North America and UK. The military claimed that these objects were not human, and that corresponded to advanced extraterrestrial civilizations. I think it's just a matter of time an official statement about UFOs that will perplex more than one, because, although in many cases these are beings from other worlds, other realities we face an "interdimensional" rather than physics.
From the beginning, your research is oriented to the study of underworld. These concerns led you to make long journeys, to some of the most emblematic places, focusing especially in the Andean regions. What are the reasons that interest?
Like I said, it all started with the UFO phenomenon and alien contact me. But these beings from the stars in their messages, they suggested I investigate some parts of Peru that were considered sacred since ancient times. In the midst of that task I found the underworld. And I'm on that path. For many years I have dedicated my efforts to understand the enigma of the inner-, his message, and share them to the world.
the issue is often associated with the underworld intraterrestrial, something which I believe causes much confusion. For example, the hollow earth concept is a term used when trying to delve into these issues. What is your position?
According to what we have said inner-selves, whom we met on our expeditions to the underworld, the Hollow Earth does not exist as such, ie it is not a world "empty" with a inner sun and huge inputs at the poles. I have thoroughly investigated the subject, and I must say that there is much confusion, since the disputed photographs NASA's cases that show holes in the poles, the distorted and misunderstood American Flyer witness Richard Byrd. But the fact that there is no Hollow Earth, as speculated for centuries, does not mean they are not large underground facilities in the crust, which can reach up to 70 km thick in the mountainous areas of the continents, as the South American Andes. The Incas, for example, spoke of the Uku Pacha or "Underworld", and dealt with it in that inner realm that lies not only in the Andes, but in many parts of the world. In any case, the most disturbing is not the existence of these tunnels or galleries but who built them ...
One issue that I can not address, to discuss the issue underground, it's about the Cueva de los Tayos. I think one of the most knowledgeable people about their history, having to his credit with two important milestones. The first has to do with the expedition he led in 2002, reaching the depths of the mysterious decline adit. And a second gain, and I think perhaps more significant is the connection you established with Gerardo Peña Matheus, perhaps the last living link with the late Juan Moricz. What evoke memories of that experience?
is impossible to describe briefly what we lived there. It was a very special trip. And unlike other expeditions that go to the Cave to visit for a few hours, we had the chance to spend much time with the Shuar community and learn about their beliefs about the cave. Furthermore, in the underworld of Tayos, stayed three whole days exploring its tunnels and huge rooms. Moricz was not lying: there are walkways, beams, walls and rooms "artificial." But you have to enter the maze to see the main building, shown mostly in ruins.
But most important of the August issue of 2002, we witnessed some extraordinary phenomena in the Cave. Among them the appearance of a white light that accompanied the group and wielding intelligent behavior. The seven members of the expedition we saw, including a native Shuar, José Saantz. Preparation in the Ecuadoran army command not prepared to see "that." However, it is not everything. The most amazing thing was the visit of some small creatures, 1.20m tall, slightly larger head than the body, with dark eyes and silver skin and terra-cotta. They moved swiftly into the tunnels, avoiding direct contact with us. Looked timid and they resented the light if they were lit with lanterns. Apparently, they are nyctalops. Clearly noticed that they were harmless. Jivaro know them, call them "Sunki." Would be the guardians of the tunnels ...
The existence of these creatures in the background makes the alleged Metal Library would have seen Moricz and Goyen Aguado. Explain the true interest of scientists in attending the Tayos, including the group of biologists who went with Neil Armstrong to the cave in 1976. According to some sources that he uses to capture one of these living creatures, was a secret plan or the same issue Ecuadorian-British knew. Peña-Matheus, lawyer and close friend of Moricz in Guayaquil, I confirm some things. Among them, that Moricz had also seen these little beings of the Kingdom Underground, and thanks to them came to the "Taltos" and the metal library. The Sunki should play an important role in the world intraterrestrial income, since many indigenous cultures around the world depicted in rock art petroglyphs or near the entrances to these shrines that lie hidden beneath our feet.
Continuing Tayos. It is remarkable how much attention it is generating today. Recently Ecuador's Teleamazonas chain devoted a few weeks ago, an important segment, and there are countless expeditions and documentaries and articles that are pending Andean cave. But collecting some frustration at not being able to penetrate his true secret, soon to be forty-five years without resolution. What is your reading on the enigma Tayos?
The issue is because all the initiatives Tayos study, whether by television, or some independent research, are rushed and ill-conceived. To this we add that the Shuar community is more reluctant to turn down a stranger to the Cave or other similar access in the area they protect. If permitted, let alone see the first few meters of the tunnel. Sounds good to care entries. When the mystery of Tayos is need to raise awareness eventually be in time for "them" and not ours.
I think the enigma of the Cueva de los Tayos show that there were advanced civilizations in the world before Egypt, Sumer or India. And that the "mother culture" hid his knowledge files "Arcas underground" stationed at various places on the planet. La Cueva de los Tayos is just one of those "Arcas". I have explored other locations around the globe where I think there are these repositories of information, as Titicaca, Cusco, Paititi, the Sierra del Roncador, Roraima, Guatavita, Mount Shasta, Mount Sinai or the Gobi Desert. This would connect in the old Buddhist belief of "Shambhala".
Another of your great passions is the pursuit of the White Brotherhood, which identifies me personally, one of my goals to verify the possibility of their existence. This concern led you to make an incredible trip to Mongolia, perhaps the spiritual center of excellence world's most important. Somehow back on the road taken by Nicholas Roerich in the last century, who also had to this search as a priority. Can we talk about a turning point in the life of Ricardo Gonzalez?
The White Brotherhood exists. It Moricz underground society called "Taltos" the descendants of those lost civilizations "pre downpours." Yes, it sounds incredible. But after I met one of these messengers, on an expedition to the jungles of Manu in Peru, I knew the underworld-film equation with symbols-keepers of records, it was not impossible.
In August 2007 an international group traveled to the Gobi Desert, where 200 years ago Mongolian monk found a door "dimensional" having been visited in secret by a number of personalities, including scientists from the National Geographic or the Dalai Lama himself. That light gate connects to one of the "spiritual sanctuaries" of the White Brotherhood or "Lords of Shambhala." Indeed, Nicholas Roerich was referring to them and their association with a foreign power stone called "Chintamani", a supernatural object that reminds suspiciously or emerald Umina Goddess lost Inca, and the medieval version of the origin of the Holy Grail. In the midst of this avalanche of revelations, I found a set of keys that have kept me engaged in research in recent years. As Daniel Entin spoke in New York (Director of the Roerich Museum), the "key" to understand this great puzzle are the works of Russian painter and its hidden message. Roerich
crossed the desert of Gobi and Altai Mountains. I do not know if he met the dimensional gate currently guarding the monks from Khamar, but those trips through the heart of Asia they changed profoundly. I'm not surprised. Our expedition to Gobi was, as you say, a before and after for us. At least for me has been the case. My view of things, contact with these beings, everything has changed 180 degrees. I rediscovered these experiences are much deeper than what you see in the "surface." Today I try to convey that vision, where one should be more free in his mystical path or research. Away from old ways or schemes that do not fit the times we are living, and what's coming. It is time for a change that will lead to another stage, more authentic and spiritual, but no less sensible and coherent.
Exopolitics has been established as the mainstream, as the UFO issue. However, their arguments do not seem to convince the majority of the public, criticizing its lack of rigor in terms of data, some of which are very disparate. How contacted, we identified the movement, or feel the discussion is mis background?
I had the opportunity to discuss this issue with Dr. Alfred Webre. I think the term "Exopolitics" just puts you first and last name to that old initiative to understand how is our relationship with advanced alien societies. Whatever the case, I would say that the current Exopolitics is ill-conceived, but that still is being structured in the future projection. And the time put the record straight about his contribution, or the authenticity of those extraordinary claims that talk about experiments secrets and human bases on Mars. But I'm not part of that movement. Perhaps because our experience contact us to see things differently.
Despite your youth, you are considered one of the most prolific writers in the middle, with a few published works, which began with the writing of Masters of Paititi . You are currently presenting the brand new inner- , then a line started in Uku Pa cha, perhaps one of the best guides on underground sites. Is it a sequel, or are we at a glance new about the enigma of enigmas?
Both. Initially thought of reissuing "Uku Pacha," but from the time of its publication (2002) to date, much water has flowed under the bridge, new journeys, experiences, and of course lots of information about the inner-and relics power. Although some of these data were circulating on the Internet through our articles and reports, I felt I should put it all together under one common thread to explain in a better context and objectively as possible, which means the enigma of contact the underworld.
Intraterrestrial . The book not only speaks of the White Brotherhood and its holy shrines in the world, but much of the research focuses on the mystery of the 13 discs solar power and the Chintamani stone, impossible objects that appear to have been taken from a tale of science fiction, but according to our experience and observations, is a real legacy of the "Lords of Shambhala." The book also narrates the expedition to the Cueva de los Tayos, the appearance of Sunki, and recent trips to the Gobi (2007) and Roraima (2009).
To conclude. What would you recommend to new generations that are initiated in this way?
Do not follow anything or anyone. Which are free. To investigate and question everything. So draw their own conclusions. And finally, as always, that road will not lead them out, but within themselves. That is the most mysterious cave that no one dares to discover caver. It is the real secret.
Ricardo Gonzalez, infinite thanks!
A big hug from Barcelona.
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